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Effect of large-scale motions on near-wall turbulence

Direct numerical simulations of turbulent flows can be done only at moderate Reynolds numbers Re. Experiment on near-wall turbulence is also limited to moderate Re, because at high Re the viscous sublayer becomes too thin to be resolved by existing instruments. As a result, industry is concerned with results obtained within academia not being transferrable to high Re typical of flight regime. Until recently, the hope of overcoming this difficulty was based on the idea of the universality (Re-independence) of near-wall turbulence. This hope suffered a serious blow with the discovery of a second, "outer", peak of the energy spectra at large Re, suggesting that at high Re more turbulence kinetic energy is contained in large-scale structures than in the near-wall region. Recent results on the modulation of the near-wall turbulence by large-scale structures, however, recreated the hope, since if the effect of large scales is limited to modulation then moderate-Re results can be used at high Re with appropriate processing.

 [Two  probes and their relation to the Marusic formula]

Fig.1. The scheme for the extrapolating medium-Re DNS and experimental results to the high-Re flight conditions.

The plan is illustrated in the figure with a reference to a formula described in the paper by I. Marusic, R. Mathis, and N. Hutchins, "Predictive model for wall-bounded turbulent flow", Science 329 (5988), 193-196, 2010. First one performs experiments or direct numerical simulations at moderate Re to determine the universal, Re-independent, functions, and then uses these universal functions in combination with in-flight large-scale-only measurements to predict the statistical properties of the flow at flight conditions. The theoretical foundations for this approach are outlined in the paper by S. Chernyshenko, I. Marusic, and R. Mathis, "Quasi-steady description of modulation effects in wall turbulence", , 2012. The latest developments are summarised in the talk, the videorecord of which is linked below.

More information:

  • A recent talk at the Workshop IV: Turbulence in Engineering Applications, Mathematics of Turbulence Program, IPAM, UCLA, 9 November 2014, Relationship between large-scale structures and near-wall turbulence: theory and implications (about 81 Mb zip archive).
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